Rang-rig Togden had been a wandering gÇodpa until meeting with Jomo Pema ’ö-Zér, but she instructed him in the practices of Dzogchen long-dé which she had received from her aunt Jomo Chhi’mèd Pema, and after that he had several visions of Yeshé Tsogyel, Tashi Chhi’drèn and Mandarava. They practised all their lives in caves and spent almost all their elder years in retreat.
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